Friday, March 30, 2012

Lakes around Mt. Hood

Hi everyone!





My bf and I planned to schedule a day trip sightseeing the Columbia River Gorge and Mt. Hood loop in early June. Is there a nice, scenic lake near Mt. Hood that isn%26#39;t too far out of the way from our loop? And what route would be best to take? [i.e., Portland-%26gt;Gorge-%26gt;Mt. Hood-%26gt;Lake or Portland-%26gt;Gorge-%26gt;Lake-%26gt;Mt. Hood]?





Mahalo in advance! =)





Lakes around Mt. Hood


Timothy Lake + Little Crater Lake = good times.



Portland-%26gt;Mt. Hood-%26gt;Lake(s)-%26gt;Gorge.



Lakes around Mt. Hood


Aloha!!





I agree with Oregone...Timothy Lake and Little Crater Lake are a good bet. Little Crater Lake is one of my favorite places to go up there.





If you are pressed for time, and don%26#39;t want to go all the way to ';Timmy'; Lake, Clear Lake is nice. There might be some tadpoles in Frog lake, though it could be a little early for them.





I generally do the trip in the opposite direction that Oregone suggested though...that will put you in Hood River around lunch time, depending what time you leave in the morning and how many stops you make along the historic highway.





Portland%26gt;Gorge%26gt;Lake(s)%26gt;Mt. Hood





Keep in mind, the lakes mentioned are all east of Government Camp.




Wow! I love all of the helpful advice and information on this board! I had heard of Timothy Lake but not Little Crater. I%26#39;m so glad I asked because I had to cancel the actual Crater Lake out of our plans and now I have a do-able alternative.





Thank you DE%26#39;s! =)




Timothy Lake and Little Crater Lake are good choices. But there is also Trillium Lake which is the lake you can see from Timberline Lodge. It has a nice area with picnic tables if you want to bring your lunch to eat while you enjoy the view of Mt. Hood. Drive on past Trillium Lake and you have Frog Lake and Clear Lake. All three of these are closer to Mt. Hood than Timothy Lake.





I would recommend that you drive Portland, Gorge, the Mt. Hood Loop, and then a lake of your choice.





Joan from http://www.great-oregon-vacations.com




';I had to cancel the actual Crater Lake out of our plans and now I have a do-able alternative.';



Little Crater Lake is exactly the same as Crater Lake if you stand REALLY far away.



And you%26#39;re two-thirds of the way through a bottle of Crater Lake Vodka.



And it%26#39;s night.




Still chuckling, thanks, Oregone.





I%26#39;ll ask a couple of questions on your behalf.





If we plan on swimming in the lakes, what is water temperature in June?





Will there be mosquitoes in the area or is it too early?




Little Crater Lake is not an actual lake, it is an artesian well. You can probably walk around it in less than 5 minutes, if that. Though there really isn%26#39;t a trail around it, just to it. Most beautiful crystal clear water you will see.





http://www.ohwy.com/or/l/litcratlkcg.htm





Oregone: I read your description to hubby and he is still laughing.





I really wouldn%26#39;t swim in any of the lakes in early June, unless we have had some unusual hot weather for about two weeks. In late July or August, when we have had a few 100 degree days down here, it turns to almost bathwater.





Just use mosquito repellent and the mossies won%26#39;t bother you.




Mirror Lake is one of my favorites. You have to hike in a bit to get to it but it is an easy hike, however, I just did it this past weekend and there was a LOT of snow and the lake is still mostly frozen.





The trail head is near Gov%26#39;t Camp and the hike is about 3.2 miles round trip. You can still catch the ';mirror'; effect in the part that is unfrozen and it makes for some incredible photographs!

What's the Viking Motel like? There are no reviews?

A bunch of us Canucks are planning to be in Portland for the Blues Festival in July. We won%26#39;t be in our room much so don%26#39;t want to spend much (i.e. under $100/nt). Nonetheless, we would like a clean room (i.e. no bed bugs, roaches, dirty sheets, grimy surfaces, or filthy floors) and would like to be close to downtown (or the MAX to get downtown. We%26#39;re just looking for a basic clean room in an a fairly safe neighborhood.





I came across the Viking Motel but there are no reviews. Does anyone have any experience with this motel? If not, can you recommend any others that might work for us?





Thanks so much.





Dawn



What's the Viking Motel like? There are no reviews?


Hi Dawn, it might help if you list the link to its website? Then the local Portland folk could look it up and perhaps tell you more about it.



I know of a motel out by the airport - about 35 min by MAX - that is very nice and about $85 for your dates; micro/fridge %26amp; free full breakfast. You probably don%26#39;t want to be that far out but it%26#39;s an idea if you cannot find anything closer to downtown.



What's the Viking Motel like? There are no reviews?


I know of it, not some place I would stay. In fact, I would pretty much avoid everything on Interstate.





I would suggest maybe looking towards the airport, or maybe something in Delta Park area. Both areas would put you close to the Max line.





Another option would be to try your luck on Priceline, but, I imagine for Blues Festival the hotels will be pretty full and there won%26#39;t be many deals to be had.




You might want to check Park Lane Inn Suites:





http://www.parklanesuites.com/index.php





The two bedroom will sleep 6 people.





Maybe also try VBRO:





vrbo.com/vacation-rentals/鈥ortland-metro





It is a bit late to book things for the festival but if you find a place, you will surely have a great time! The Blues Festival is fantastic!


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  • Njmber of days in Portland

    We hope to spend 2 or 3 days in Portland before heading to the Shakespeare festival in Ashland. Is three days okay or will two full days be enough?





    What is there to do in the Ashland area for a couple in their late 50%26#39;s not interested in anything beyond unstrenous walking or hiking?



    Njmber of days in Portland


    The three top activities in Ashland are the theater, the food and the shopping along the villages main street. Since you can do a couple of plays a day if you want (matinee and evening), you won%26#39;t have a lot of extra time. You didn%26#39;t say how many days you planned to be in Ashland or whether you already have play tickets. If you don%26#39;t have them, I suggest you order them online ASAP.



    http://www.osfashland.org/



    The festival website also gives links to other attractions in the area. And, if the festival plays aren%26#39;t enough, there%26#39;s also the Oregon Cabaret across the street



    (http://www.oregoncabaret.com/index.html)



    and the Britt Festival in nearby Jacksonville



    http://www.brittfest.org/



    You didn%26#39;t say WHEN you were going. If it%26#39;s later in the summer, you can expect quite hot weather in Ashland, so you might not want to do much more walking than the shopping requires...but, if it%26#39;s not too hot, Lithia Park offers delightful strolling opportunities.



    Njmber of days in Portland


    Thank you. We hope to be there the last week of July. Any recommendations for a pet friendly hotel or B%26amp;B.



    Is the shopping curio and chachka shops or more substantive?



    We are not interested in two plays a day so are really looking for day activities with plays at night.



    Any thoughts on my first question about Portland?




    The eating is fine in Ashland! Check out The Winchester Inn, Liquid Assets Wine Bar, Chateaulin (French) Peerless, Lark%26#39;s @ the Ashland Springs Hotel and Beasey%26#39;s on the Creek for a casual meal. There are some nice boutiques and shops, also in Ashland. Lithia Park is a nice place to relax and people watch. Enjoy your time Ashland! :)




    I think two full days in Portland would be enough, and recommend you use at least half of one to drive out the Columbia River Gorge. Use the other to visit gardens, and/or walk around the Pearl District and NW 21st and 23rd Avenues.





    I might rate some of Ashland%26#39;s shopping as curio, but definitely not chachka (at least as far as prices). Consider seeing two plays on at least one of the days. Oregonpoppa is right about Ashland%26#39;s top activities. But, it won%26#39;t take more than a couple hours to ';shop'; the town; even less time for a stroll in Lithia Park.





    Hmmm..... have you ever seen Crater Lake?

    driving through eastern oregon- which way?

    We have 2 days driving from Boise to Crater Lake in August. Any suggestions on which highway to take and sights to see on route?





    driving through eastern oregon- which way?


    Suggest you take US-26 through John Day, see Strawberry Mtns, John Day Fossil Beds, Painted Hills l



    driving through eastern oregon- which way?


    many thanks




    Agree with phirl. The first time I drove this route, I was in awe of the Strawberry Mts. SO beautiful!! And the drive along the John Day River is very pretty as well.




    There are two good ways to go.





    The first is what phirl said with the following exception: do not get on US-26 directly form Interstate 84. Take I-84 up to Baker City (a picturesque drive) and then take highway 7 (designated as an Oregon Scenic Byway) towards Sumpter and eventually US-26. It’s less than twenty miles farther and won’t take any longer because of the time spent on the Interstate.





    Things to see or do on this Oregon Scenic Byway:



    Oregon Trail Interpretive Center:



    http://www.blm.gov/or/oregontrail/



    Choo-Choo Train Ride:



    http://www.svry.com/



    Lunch/Dinner at the Geiser Grand Hotel: …photobucket.com/albums/…Geiser.jpg





    A second way is to take US-20 to Bend, with a side trip to the truly awesome Steens Mountain area, and then drive to Crater Lake. On the way to Steens stop at the Malheur National Wildlife Refuge (seen in the movie “Winged Migration”).





    Because this area is so remote very few Oregonians have been there, but for you, it would only be a 60 mile side trip.



    http://www.harneycounty.com/SteensMtn.htm



    http://www.oregonphotos.com/pagethree-C.html



    …away.com/gorp/resource/us_nwr/or_malhe.htm




    Sure agree with Kusko about the Hwy 7 part. It is more scenic than US-26. Though i do think it might take a few minutes more. The drive from Vale to Unity is rather boring.





    US-20 faster route bur even more boring.





    I helped locate part of that SR-7broute when it was a Forest Service road. Then we built it to State Hwy stds. Was not long before State saw logic to making it a State Hwy. If you have ever been across Dooley Mtn Pass you would understand.

    Overleaf Village

    This question was posted several years ago in the aloha forum (not sure why there) but here it goes. I have stayed at the Overleaf Lodge before and just loved it. Now I have booked a cottage at their newer property called the Overleaf Village, this coming July. I could not find any reviews anywhere online about this place, and I did some hard searching. I was hoping someone here could tell me anything..

    Thanks!

    Overleaf Village

    I can%26#39;t really tell you anything more about Overleaf Village than you%26#39;ll learn on the website, except a bit about location. Village ';cottages'; are grouped in an area just to the north of Overleaf Lodge, more set back from the beach/surf. Because they%26#39;re fully equipped homes, I think they%26#39;d be great for an extended stay... prepare your own meals and such. Just don%26#39;t expect the same views you had from OverLeaf Lodge.

    Overleaf Village

    mistletoe is spot on with his description!

    The cottages are VERY nice (as nice as the Lodge), but no views. There are a couple that are located pretty close to hwy 101, so if you decide on this option, make sure and ask for one away from the highway!


    We booked the Perpetua Cottage so not sure where that is located.. but they do look nice and I knew when we booked they didn%26#39;t have much views..


    They are set back from the beach, landscaped in nicely done coastal plantings. Each looks very private and cosy. There is just a very short walk to the rocky shore, or downhill to the sandy beach just north of the Overleaf.

    I would have happily stayed there on our next visit in August this year, but DH wants an ocean view, so we rented a beachfront cottage a little north of Yachats.

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  • pumping gas

    Weird question here - my husband read somewhere that gas stations in Oregon are all full service. Is this true?





    If Oregon has full service only at gas stations, are you expected to tip the person pumping gas? The only east coast state that has this rule is New Jersey and I%26#39;ve been told you%26#39;re not supposed to tip. I have no idea if this is correct information or not.





    Sorry for the oddball question, I%26#39;m just curious!



    pumping gas


    I%26#39;ve tipped 3 times in the 17 years I%26#39;ve been driving. Either a truly above-and-beyond level of service, or an attendant that looks like a young Winona Ryder.



    pumping gas


    Yes, it is illegal to pump your own gas here. And tipping...nope:) Actually, I did give an attendant a Starbucks card once because when I was paying I realized I had it and I don%26#39;t like Starbucks...so I just passed it along to him and it was a cold winter day so hopefully he enjoyed it.




    No pumping your own gas. Really nice when it is rainy out, not so nice when you are in a hurry and have to sit and wait.





    However, there was a time in Bend where the attendant tole me to go pump my own, and then it leaked all over me. I was not pleased. I am pretty sure that guy got fired after I left. Apparently he was overwhelmed, and just started telling everyone they could pump their own.





    Isn%26#39;t there some loophole that people on motorcycles can pump their own?





    Sometimes, if they clean all my windows, volunteer to check the oil, etc. I will slip them a buck or two, but those times are few and far inbetween.




    Not weird - we get this question a couple of times a year. You folks in other states always know when an Oregonian pulls into a gas station, because we just sit there waiting. LOL!



    No tips. You%26#39;ll get fueled up and *maybe* get your windshield washed. If somebody really goes out of their way to help, (check oil/other fluids) there is nothing illegal about tipping if you feel like it :-)



    There are some exceptions to the ';can%26#39;t pump it yourself'; rule. If you have a card/account with an independent fuel wholesaler, you must pump your own fuel at their stations, since there are no attendants. Before you get a card in this state, though, you have to fill out a form and assure them that you know all safety procedures, blah blah.



    Additionally, if there is a gas station attached to an Indian casino, they may have ';self serve'; pumps. I know Spirit Mountain in Grande Ronde does, and the price is always 10垄 per gallon less for self-serve diesel. Apparently once again the tribes do not have to follow all Oregon state rules.



    Professional truckes of course fuel their trucks themselves.




    The gas station on W Burnside by Chinatown employed men who are .. I guess you would say .. challenged.



    They do fine work, but they are also very sweet and nice and want to do a good job, washing windows, petting the Pup etc .. we would usually give them the change, whatever there was in coins from paying for the gas.



    In NJ.. where you also do not pump your own gas, people tipped ..



    I enjoyed having someone else pump gas ... I still not so fondly remember the smell of gas on my husbands suede shoe after his little misshap with the pump .. %26lt;rolling eyes%26gt;




    I am in Cal now pumping my own gas. I really do not like doing that. every station has a different way to pay. so it takes time to learn that each time. suppose if you regularly pumped your own it would be easy





    windshields are collecting bugs, so need to wash windows after I pump gas. In OR I can do it while gas is being pumped. or in some stations thay clean them. if one attendant not busy.





    no tipping.





    we are in Angels Camp, we did not know it was frog jumping week. Town is packed must be 500 motorcycles or more in town. Noisy during day but they seem to quiet at night at least where we are.




    I love our ';you cannot pump your own gas'; law.





    So, yes, it is true, you cannot pump your own gas here...and tips are not part of the package. As others have said, IF you want to tip, you probably can. Some employers will not allow it, so the attendant would let you know if they cannot accept a tip.





    One of the businesses with a ';no tip'; policy in Portland is New Seasons. You cannot tip their delivery driver. If you do, the driver can loose their job. New Seasons treats their staff well, so, I never feel guilty when I cannot tip in that instance.




    Thanks for the info guys! It%26#39;s always good to know about this stuff in advance so I don%26#39;t look like a fish out of water.




    %26lt;%26lt;Thanks for the info guys! It%26#39;s always good to know about this stuff in advance so I don%26#39;t look like a fish out of water.%26gt;%26gt;





    LOL! Like many of us do when we visit other states and keep waiting for the attendant to fill the tank. ;-)




    One of the first things I had to learn when I moved here from California was patience at the gas pump. I was so adept that I could scoot in, scope out the pump that would open first, jump out and swipe my card while opening the tank, pump my gas and be on my way in just a few minutes. In Oregon you are at the mercy of the attendant who may not be good at keeping track of which cars are done, etc. Sometimes I sit over 10 minutes waiting to get filled. I decided it was a good lesson in slowing down and I do love it when it%26#39;s pouring rain and I don%26#39;t have to get out.





    I%26#39;ve tipped a couple times - once out of pity when it was super cold, and once for amazing service which included treats for the pup.





    I do find it a bit amusing that Oregon thinks there is a lot to learn about safely pumping gas....in all my years in CA there was only one incident I was aware of and that was when a woman drove off with the nozzle still in her tank. What a mess! Ripped the dang pump out!

    Crater Lake Update

    For those interested...





    oregonlive.com/news/index.ssf/2009/05/crater鈥?/a>





    The lodge has opened for business, they are still working on removing snow, so it looks like it is going to be a few more weeks.

    Cheap eats for tourists and locals

    In case you don%26#39;t know about the whole $25 gift card for $10 thing, here you go:



    鈥ortlandmercury.com/portland/MercPerks/Page



    restaurant.com/rdc_site.net/listings.aspx鈥?/a>



    Cheap eats for tourists and locals


    That is awesome!! Thank you for sharing!!





    There were a couple of restaurants that I had been wanting to try, but were a little out of my normal price range. Can you say date night??



    Cheap eats for tourists and locals


    Wild Abandon sounds good .. Love that name .. great name lol.





    Bastas Trattoria ! someone go and report back !! see a movie after at Cinema 21 and tell me about that too !





    Thai Terrace looks very nice ... go and tell me about that one too .. do a comparison test with Typhoon, which was our favorite .. And still there , in case anyone wonders. lol





    OK, who will be the TA FoodHound ? oregone, let the beh beh add his opinions too .. majerhle .. you definitely deserve a few nights out ... really.




    I have several certificates from the restaurant.com website. They go on sale occassionally, and you can get really good deals. I got a $25 one for Split for $3, same with Cafe Allego and MacTarnahans.





    Scarlett--Yes, Typhoon is still around:) We are going tomorrow night!




    Mtngrl, since I knew you were going, I was pretty sure it would be around at least until then ... Happy Bday to the young%26#39;un .. lol




    Scarlett, up until about a month ago, beh-beh was awesome in restaurants: He%26#39;d try anything we put in front of him. He once ate half a plate of farro at Celilo in Hood River without one complaint. And he was especially fond of the atun con tacu tacu at Andina.



    Nowadays, however, he has no interest in fine dining. Ever since he hit two, it%26#39;s all trains and crayons for that boy. The only aspect of going out to a nice meal that beh-beh enjoys these days is the waitresses. Blond, brunette, or redhead, my son spends the whole meal making flirty-birdy eyes at the 20-something girl in the white button-down shirt and apron that refills his apple juice glass. What%26#39;s really weird is that he insists on calling them by their names, which I%26#39;ve always felt was kind of a cheesy faux-pas. And then he has to talk about kissing them all the way home. I just reread this paragraph and it sounds like I%26#39;m joking but I%26#39;m not.



    For example, after a dinner served by Maria at Castagna last week, he was all, ';Mi-Mi-Ah kisssss.'; Nothing about the food, just all about kissing the server. I swear that kid is just like me.




    LOL Oregone!!! Hey, I looked for beh beh%26#39;s shoe in Bend the other week. Didn%26#39;t find it...




    That server at the Blacksmith has it, methinks!




    Thank god he is an adorable baby boy and he can get away with asking Maria for a kiss... there must be plenty of waitresses out there with similar stories but not about beautiful little boys ...





    Glad to hear he is just like you ... that is not such a bad thing at all ...





    When will he start writing his TA reviews? lol ... '; the food was ok, kinda bland.. the apple juice was an 8 but the waitress was a 10 ?';




    Haha, he can%26#39;t do any worse than some of the facebook restaurant ';reviews';!




    Two more places to find good deals:



    http://www.portlandsecretdeals.com/



    http://halfpriceportland.mediawebconnect.com/


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  • Which ';whale'; B&B would you recommend?

    We%26#39;re going to be spending a couple of nights in Depoe Bay in mid July as part of a longer trip up the coast from Cali to PDX and have had two inns suggested to us. One is Whales Rendezvous, which is ranked #1 for Depoe here on TA. The others is newer, Whales Cove Inn and is owned by the same people who own Channel House. Can people in the know comment on these two inns? Would you recommend one over the other? Any and all info most appreciated. Thank you!



    Which ';whale'; B%26amp;B would you recommend?


    Given that I have not stayed in either one, I think there is one big difference and that is the location.



    Whale Cove Inn is about 1-2 miles south of Depoe Bay, sitting on the edge of Little Whale Cove. In other words, it is not located actually at Depoe Bay itself.



    I%26#39;m not familiar with Whales Rendevous, but from the photos, I can tell it is located within Depoe Bay.



    If you like to stroll around outside your lodging and walk around town, then the Rendevous would be more desirable.



    You%26#39;ll probably want to eat at Tidal Raves restaurant - do book *well* ahead in July!



    Which ';whale'; B%26amp;B would you recommend?


    Hi airedale!





    Was Channel House booked?? I%26#39;ve stayed there twice now, cheaper than both inns you mentioned, and absolutely delightful. Right on the ocean and several of the rooms/suites are right on the channel so it%26#39;s fun to watch the boats coming in and out of the harbor beside watching for whales. Plus, the breakfast can%26#39;t be beat plus definitely within walking distance of everything in Depoe Bay. Whereever you end up, I wish you a terrific time on our Oregon Coast!!!





    Regards,




    I%26#39;m not at all familiar with Whales Rendezvous, and haven%26#39;t stayed at Whale Cove Inn, but my wife and I did stop by for a look-see earlier this year. From what we saw, the building%26#39;s front facade is the only thing about Whale Cove that%26#39;s not appealing. The interior is furnished in contemporary luxury, and rooms all look out over a beautifully maintained lawn to the cove below. By appearance, I%26#39;d rate it with the best of other Oregon coast lodgings: Stephanie Inn, Tu Tu Lodge.... Target market appears to be couples celebrating special occasions, and/or others seeking the private, quiet intimacy that seems to pervade the space. It%26#39;s on our list!!




    Ummm... that should be Tu Tu Tun Lodge...




    Whale Cove is nearly new, I believe. It%26#39;s an *upscale* lodging, and is on our list to try.





    Earlier question regarding Channel House being booked needs your consideration.





    If it%26#39;s available, I%26#39;d look closely at it. We stayed there a bunch of years ago, and it was VERY good. I don%26#39;t have any reason to believe differently today.





    We stayed in ';Suite Salt Air';, and I%26#39;d LOVE to stay in that suite again.





    Good luck!

    Asian restaurants

    Where are the best asian restaurants (Japanese/Korean/Thai)? We will be staying at the Nines Hotel and would appreciate any nearby eateries.

    Asian restaurants

    Well, everyone I work with swears by Sungari and Esan. Both are within walking distance of the Nines.

    I am sure some of the foodies around here that have a little bit of knowledge in the food area can point you in the right direction.

    Asian restaurants

    Typhoon%26#39;s another that would be just a short walk away. But, to your question, several of the nicer asian restaurants are in the Pearl District, with a few more scattered along NW 21st and 23rd. The Pearl has Sinju plus another Sungari location. NW 21st %26amp; 23rd has Be Won, another Typhoon, and Tanuki, this neat little hole-in-the-wall Japanese place my wife and tried a couple weeks ago. Great food, and different from what I%26#39;ve seen on other menus, whether in Portland or Tokyo.

    I know you%26#39;ll also find some great asian food along Hawthorne Blvd, just can%26#39;t remember names...


    I agree that Thyphoon is one of the best Thai restaurants in Portland. Their pad kee mao and ahi larb salad are mounthwateringly good!

    You didn%26#39;t mention Chinese but Sungari Pearl has incredible food! Mostly locally sourced ingredients, including their meat, no MSG and nicely cooked. Their happy hour is terrific and they offer Thursday Jazz night with all night happy hour food menu! www.sungaripearl.com.


    I second Typhoon and Sungari Pearl and add Silk Bistro ..

    Their pho is amazing, the other dishes are so good, I could never decide what was my favorite .. and the service and space is just perfect...

    http://www.silkbyphovan.com/


    More votes for Sungari, Typhoon and Silk:)

    We were just at Typhoon again this weekend. Lots of good dishes, but my favorite is still the yellow curry. For me, that is the one dish I compare everything else to, lol!


    I fifth of sixth Typhoon, as well as Esan.

    On 16th and Glisan, you will find Sweet Basil. One of my favorites as well.

    Hawthorne was mentioned. It would be a car or cab ride from The Nines. If you head there, I recommend My Thai Bistro. Boun and Penny, your host and hostess are great as is their food.

    If you like Vietnamese food (which was not listed in your likes) I would get in a car and head to NE 66th and Sandy Blvd to Yen Ha. One of Portlands best Vietnamese restaurants. Their menu is huge and everything that I have tried (over the past 12 years) has been fantastic.

    I am having a brain cramp on a Sushi eatery that I love. Why has it now gone out of my head? Oh wait, Masu! That%26#39;s it Masu. Near the Pearl, if not considered part of it.

    Asian food and Portland are perfect partners. You will find many great places to snag an Asian meal.

    For anyone looking for an inexpensive, yet really good sushi bar, I recommend Takahashi near PSU. The sushi chef does a great job. There is a conveyor belt as well as being able to order from the menu. It is all sushi bar, no tables. In a little strip mall.

    They also have a full restaurant on 103rd and SE Holgate. Looks like a place you may not want to enter, but the food is really good. They were named as one of the top 100 Portland restaurants, the the Oregonian, a couple of years ago....2004 or 2005.

    Okay, NOW I am hungry for sushi!


    Really, I think you could throw a rock and hit a good restaurant for Thai/Japanese/Vietnamese/Chinese, etc. in Portland.

    It would probably be easier to make a list of the ones to avoid...LOL!


    mahjerle,

    I think you are right! Great response!

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  • Eating before the symphony

    WE are going to Portland for the day (from Seattle) for a synphony performance. Can anyone suggest some great place to eat that aren%26#39;t too far away? Thanks!



    Eating before the symphony


    This is an easy one! Higgins or Southpark Seafood Grill. In a pinch, Heathman Hotel.



    Eating before the symphony


    We usually went to the Heathman Bar and had just snack .. they do those very well.. it is a nice atmosphere too.



    Then dinner after .. SouthPark is a great recommendation ..





    There is a good restaurants a few blocks down on South Broadway, at the Lucia Hotel - Typhoon...





    We usually went back to the Pearl to have dinner, nothing but choices there !





    Here is a small list in that general area..



    tripadvisor.com/GoListDetail-i1395-Portland_鈥?/a>




    Higgins is very good, in the Pearl District we really love Bluehour, very good Gnocchi here and the space is gorgeous that the restaurant is housed in. Also in the Pearl is Olea, Ten 01, Carlyle, Park Kitchen and Andina (cool Peruvian restaurant.)





    Enjoy your time in Portland! :)




    I wouldn%26#39;t expect you to know, syrahgirl, but except for Higgins, none of the restaurants you%26#39;re recommending are close to ';The Schnitz';, where the Oregon Symphony performs. And BTW, Olea is apparently closed now, another victim of this lousy Portland economy.




    It is really too bad about Olea. We liked them once and then not so much, but I still feel bad that they closed.



    it was such a pretty space ..




    Just a reminder concerning the local/non-local remarks.. This is a Travel forum, not a Locals forum..







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    hiking on Rogue River trail

    We would like to hike 4 to 8 miles next to the Rogue. Can anyone tell us where to park to be hiking with a steady view of the river. Some place not too far (less than 10 miles) from Merlin or Galice would be good.





    hiking on Rogue River trail


    Not a direct response to your question, but here are websites with worthwhile info:



    blm.gov/or/鈥ogue-river-trail.php



    or cut and paste if above didn%26#39;t fit



    http://www.blm.gov/or/resources/recreation/



    rogue/rogue-river-trail.php



    www.oregon.com/trips/rogueriverhike.cfm



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    hiking on Rogue River trail


    Hi, travelbug---





    Okay, please forgive my informality regarding directions but here goes:





    I%26#39;ve hiked this particular trail twice now and loved it! Keep driving west through Merlin and then Galice-several miles past Galice-the roadway goes through beautiful canyon until it comes to the river.



    There is a trailhead on either side of the river-I really like the first one you come to-right before the bridge over the river on the left side of the road is a very small pullout. The trail starts there. If you go across the bridge, it ends up at a huge parking lot where alot of rafters put in. Like I said, I really like the first one you come to because it%26#39;s on a shadier side of the Rogue and more scenic. You can hike a few miles as far as you like-I think it%26#39;s just a few miles to a falls in the river and lots of rafting action. Have fun-it%26#39;s a great hike!! Oh, and views of the Rogue all the way.





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    Hi, travelbug---





    Okay, please forgive my informality regarding directions but here goes:





    I%26#39;ve hiked this particular trail twice now and loved it! Keep driving west through Merlin and then Galice-several miles past Galice-the roadway goes through beautiful canyon until it comes to the river.



    There is a trailhead on either side of the river-I really like the first one you come to-right before the bridge over the river on the left side of the road is a very small pullout. The trail starts there. If you go across the bridge, it ends up at a huge parking lot where alot of rafters put in. Like I said, I really like the first one you come to because it%26#39;s on a shadier side of the Rogue and more scenic. You can hike a few miles as far as you like-I think it%26#39;s just a few miles to a falls in the river and lots of rafting action. Have fun-it%26#39;s a great hike!! Oh, and views of the Rogue all the way.





    t




    Thanks for your ideas for hiking next to the Rogue. It sounds beautiful and we are looking forward to it.




    Thanks for your ideas for hiking next to the Rogue. It sounds beautiful and we are looking forward to it.

    Where is the best white water rafting in Oregon?

    We%26#39;ve got two weeks in Oregon, from Portland to the coast, down to Redwood and then up to the Merlin/Ashford area then on to Crater Lake and the Columbia River Gorge. Along the way, we want to go white water rafting: Something thrilling but not too thrilling, maybe a Class 3. We just want a day trip. I was thinking about the Rogue, but then heard that the Klamath was prettier. Any suggestions for river/trip/outfitter/location? Also, good spots for kayaking? Thanks!



    Where is the best white water rafting in Oregon?


    The Snake, Minam, Deschutes, N and S Umpqua and the Rogue all offer very good white water rafting. My personal favorite is the Rogue, puting in at either Merlin or Galice, west of Grants Pass, though Hells Canyon (Snake River) is VERY scenic and also the deepest river gorge in North America. While we have not personally used an outfitter, Galice Resort is a favorite of several friends of mine.





    http://www.galice.com/





    For kyaking, it depends on what you%26#39;re after. One of my favorite paddles is the Nehalem River estuary. It%26#39;s an easy paddle with lots of varied wildlife and beautiful scenery. Just about all the major rivers along the coast offer one or more kayaking tours.





    BTW, Galice Resort also offers kayaking on the Rogue.



    Where is the best white water rafting in Oregon?


    How about combining both the white water and kayaking in one trip? Orange Torpedo has one day trips on both the Rogue and Klamath: http://www.orangetorpedo.com/. We did a trip with them years ago, and I%26#39;d bet they%26#39;re still a reputable outfitter.




    The Klamath is great, but it%26#39;s Class IV+ or Class V. The Deschutes and Rogue are scenic and enjoyable, thrilling might be an overstatement, but a good family outing.





    Right across the Columbia River on the Washington side is the White Salmon, Wind, and Klickitat rivers. The White Salmon is probably perfect for what you%26#39;re looking for - Class IV, wild and scenic. The Wind is more technical, a Class V, so you might not want that, though it%26#39;s a beautiful river. The Klickitat is less beautiful, but also less technical at Class III+.





    A lot will depend on when you%26#39;re coming - many of the good rivers dry up during the summer. All of the above are great for Kayaking - also the Sandy, Clackamas, White River, etc. Just depends on how technical of a river you%26#39;re looking for.




    Thanks for the replies. This helps immensely. How does the White Salmon compare to the Umpqua for rafting/scenery/crowds?




    I have not yet been on the Umpqua but only the North Umpqua has been designated a Wild and Scenic River by the BLM/USFS. The White Salmon is a Wild and Scenic River. I%26#39;ve heard the North Umpqua is beautiful, though, and a solid Class II-III with one Class IV drop.





    The White Salmon can be run all year - we ran it in August. It%26#39;s COLD though. There%26#39;s a great Class V Drop at Husum Falls, but that%26#39;s optional. You can walk around it if you don%26#39;t want to run it.





    River Drifters, All Star Rafting, Blue Sky Outfitters, ZooRaft, Oregon Peak Adventures, River Riders and Wave Trek are a few of the companies that run it.





    Wind River Cellars has a winery close by that you can relax at and do some wine tasting after your trip.





    For the best ride, make sure to ask how many people will be in a raft - the fewer the better. More than six is too many, in my opinion, though many companies put 8 or 9 in a raft.




    Hi Ann,





    I was just joining this post and was curious about your trip - what you ended up doing and with what outfitter?




    Hells Canyon Adventures, located in Eastern Oregon, offers one day white water rafting trips that start at Hells Canyon Dam and travel down the Snake River. At the end of the day you return upstream via jet boat. It%26#39;s a pretty cool trip!

    best restaurant for fresh fish/shellfish

    We especially love cioppino. Used to go to Anthony%26#39;s at the Old Mill, but their menu looks like they%26#39;re cutting back on ingredients.... There%26#39;s NO fresh fish place in Roseburg...



    best restaurant for fresh fish/shellfish


    That%26#39;s a tough one. Bend Fish Co has good Fish %26amp; Chips but I don%26#39;t think they have cioppino. Maybe High Tides (downtown)?





    :-/



    best restaurant for fresh fish/shellfish


    We%26#39;ve always enjoyed meals at McGrath%26#39;s. More of a family than fine dining place, but seafood is always fresh. No cioppino on the menu there either, but they do have a ';Fisherman%26#39;s Stew'; that comes kinda close.




    OK, a friend told me that Staccato (downtown) has cioppino. It%26#39;s downtown and more ';fine dining'; than Anthony%26#39;s. I%26#39;ve been there and enjoyed the meal but it%26#39;s not an ';everyday'; place, more ';special occasion';.





    I also thought of Giuseppe%26#39;s (also downtown) and Pastini at the Old Mill - both are Italian.





    If you make it to the coast (Newport) try the cioppino at Shark%26#39;s. Yummm...





    Personally I%26#39;m not fond of the Bend McGrath%26#39;s though I like some of their other locations. It just seems dark and sticky, and I%26#39;ve never had great service there. Bad timing, I guess?




    No, probably not bad timing, fiveforefun. I haven%26#39;t been to the McGrath%26#39;s Bend location in several years, so my comments were partly based on more recent visits to the one near us.




    Thanks, gang!




    We spent two nights in Bend, on our way to and from the John Day Fossil Beds and Painted Hills, which were smashing.





    Had dinner the first night at High Tides. The steamers were very good, as was the accompanying bread. The cioppino was a soup, with a thin, commercial flavor.





    So, on the second night, we dined at Deschuttes Brewery. One of us had an excellent Cobb salad and the other ordered Deschuttes%26#39; steamer bowl, which was outstanding. I would go there again in a minute.





    Thanks for all of your suggestions %26amp; comments.


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  • are the roses in bloom now?

    coming to portland in a few days. would like to know if the roses are blooming yet.

    are the roses in bloom now?

    In a few days? Roses will be in bloom. but many will still be in bud. You will see plenty of roses in bloom. though in another week you would find more

    are the roses in bloom now?

    Still buds in my part of the city. They will start coming around n a few weeks.....ah, it is the reason Rose Festival is in June.

    You could check out the Rose Test Gardens (not to be confused with the Rose Garden Arena). Not sure if anything is blooming up there, yet, but it is still a great place to see.


    I have 4 blooming this morning. Must%26#39;ve finally been jump-started by the weekend%26#39;s sun. Still have about 100 or so still in bud.


    Mine are just now budding up. Though there are a few here and there through the neighborhood.

    BTW, Rose Festival starts this weekend. They have been setting up Waterfront Village for over a week now.


    %26lt;%26lt;BTW, Rose Festival starts this weekend. They have been setting up Waterfront Village for over a week now.%26gt;%26gt;

    I noticed that today....they are starting early this year. Of course, Memorial Day weekend is earlier this year too. Yikes! It snuck up on my this time.


    We are supposed to have sunny weather for the next 7 days so that will speed things along quite a bit.


    I have already noticed a few more flowers popping out!! You may have luck yet!!

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  • need restaurant rec. for saturday

    My husband and I are showing up in Portland on Saturday. I haven%26#39;t given any thought yet to restaurants and I would imagine I need a reservation for Saturday night. We%26#39;re staying at the Westin downtown. I am looking for restaurants within walking distance, or a short ride on the MAX. Based on what I%26#39;ve eaten over the past two weeks, I%26#39;m probably going to be hungry for seafood or Japanese. Other cuisines are welcome as well, just no Italian or Thai as I%26#39;ve had too much of that lately.





    Thanks!



    need restaurant rec. for saturday


    great steak house in the benson



    need restaurant rec. for saturday


    Go to the Portland City Grill, they have really good Shushi here and beautiful views of the city. :)




    If you and your husband are not fans of single bars and the atmosphere that goes with them, I think you might skip the Portland City Grill. Sushi can be gotten in many good Japanese restaurants in town, as well as at Henrys Tavern .. which is happily a much better atmosphere.. sans view..





    Southpark is one of the best of the seafood places in my opinion, :)





    in the Pearl



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    in Downtown



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    in the NW neighborhood



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    The Streetcar is just about 3 maybe 4 blocks up the street from the Westin and it makes a Loop of the whole downtown part of Portland, so you have lots of places to choose from.





    I have a few places on lists .. these places are still open for those who worry about that sort of thing :)



    Hope this helps .... enjoy Portland !




    http://www.masusushi.com/





    Masu was mentioned lately .. it looks like a good menu ..




    Does no one here like Jake%26#39;s Famous? Man I love that place. Makin%26#39; me hungry for some brook trout.




    Oregone--If you like trout, come on over. I cannot tell you how many we have! Had to smoke a couple dozen the other day just to keep them.




    Jake%26#39;s has some of the best seafood in town and they change their menu daily to reflect what is fresh for the day. They also have a great happy hour but you need to get there by 3:30 to get a seat.





    Andina has $1 fresh shucked oysters and a few other things for their happy hour. The food is Peruvian but beautifully presented and very good!





    Andina




    The chowder at Jakes in the Governor was wonderful on rainy raw winter days. I never liked Jakes Crawfish .. but a lot of people do .. big crowds on weekends..





    One of the great things about restaurants in Portland was the amount of Good seafood dishes on all the menus ..




    I vote for Jakes or Southpark - great fresh seafood at both places. Jakes is a little more traditional and Southpark a more trendy but very comfortable atmosphere. Southpark also has a nice bar with good happy hour menu - fresh oysters and wonderful bubbly to go with.




    ';One of the great things about restaurants in Portland was the amount of Good seafood dishes on all the menus...';





    I was going to say the same thing, so suggest you don%26#39;t limit yourselves only to places that call themselves ';seafood'; restaurants. As for Japanese, Murata and Hiroshi are both very good, though Murata would be a bit of a hike. Sinju is pretty good too.





    Trout! What%26#39;s your address again, Mtngrl?

    Best campgrounds on the coast?

    We are planning a very long road trip this summer that will include 4-6 nights on the Oregon coast. We like to camp for more than one night in a spot and with all the choices in Oregon, am not sure where to stay. We have three kids ages 11, 9 and 7 who are well traveled. We like to hike, bike and lounge around. I prefer flush toilets and showers. And we love a good swimming pool, but at the beach that%26#39;s not necessary. Any advice you have would be great. I want to show the kids the sand dunes, and the Lewis and Clark stuff along the coast. We also have to head inland for a couple nights to see Crater Lake.





    Any advice you have would be appreciated.





    Thanks.



    Best campgrounds on the coast?


    You%26#39;ll note that the dunes are between North Bend and Florence, and the Lewis and Clark stuff is between Seaside and Long Beach, Washington--about 200 miles or so separates the two.



    If your coast plans are mid-week you might still find the state parks have availability if you%26#39;re looking for a yurt or cabin. I hear the KOA in Florence is nice, but I don%26#39;t think they have a pool.



    Wait. By ';camping'; do you mean with an RV of some sort?



    Best campgrounds on the coast?


    TENT camping. I%26#39;m used to that, done it all my life. So, we%26#39;re really more interested in state and national parks, than in KOAs. Not very many pools, I know, but I just threw that in.




    Really, for summer, the best campground will be the one you can get in to, unless, as oregone stated, you are travelling midweek. Most of the state parks on the coast are booked up months in advance. Sometimes you can get lucky and get a first come, first served site.





    See www.reserveamerica.com for campground reservations.





    And like Oregone said, the dunes and Lewis and Clark stuff is 200 miles apart, mostly two lane road that can become quite congested in the summer, especially when traveling through places like Lincoln City.





    Is Crater Lake included in the timeframe of 4-6 days?




    No KOA in Florence!



    So bruinred, you%26#39;ll be looking at State Parks if you like flush-T and showers.



    The bad news is that there is only one SP on the Oregon coast which has campsites right on the beach, and that is Beachside just south of Waldport. But some of the campsites are right next to the busy highway, so use caution when reserving!



    That would be a moderately central location to ride the dunes since it%26#39;s about 30 miles north of the dune rides in Florence. The kids might like to see a covered bridge in Yachats, the lookout at the top of Cape Perpetua, Devils Churn, all located within a few miles. And it is an easy run up to Newport with lighthouse tours, bay tours, the aquarium, etc.



    Other SP%26#39;s are on the inland side of Hwy 101, or in the trees not near the beach. Keep in mind the ocean water is *not* warm here.



    If you are interested in any SP%26#39;s make your bookings IMMEDIATELY. As stated above, you may already be too late.



    www.oregonstateparks.org/searchpark.php



    The Lewis and Clark stuff is in the north, and the big campground is Ft Stevens SP. Not near the ocean, though. Excellent Lewis %26amp; Clark center just over the border in WA at Cape Disappointment.



    If you only have 4-6 days to camp, you will not have time to visit Crater Lake.




    ';No KOA in Florence!';



    Oops. Am I thinking about the one in North Bend? The crazy one with the playground that looks like a small city?



    Anyway, I was just checking out reserveamerica and there seems to be a lot of availability for midweek nights at state parks (the two state parks I looked at anyway).




    We have a reservation at Fort Stevens and one at Bullard%26#39;s Beach. I planned to do two nights at each. But I think I%26#39;d rather stay a big farther south each time...maybe closer to Newport the first two nights and Reedsport the second two nights. I also just did get a reservation at the campground at Crater Lake following the previous two stays. Any recommendations given that info? We don%26#39;t have to be ON the beach. We like staying at Morro Bay State Park (off the beach) in CA and are looking forward to our reservations at Big Sur and the Redwoods for this same trip.





    Thanks again if you have any more info.




    For the Newport area, Beverly Beach State Park would be your best bet. The campground is east of hwy 101, set amongst the trees, with easy access under the highway to a GREAT beach. South Beach is your other option, but there is little shelter there from the COLD north winds that blow from April through August.





    Even though Umpqua Lighhouse State Park is a Lovely (smallish) park with a fine lake (Lake Marie) near Reedsport, with kids, you might consider staying a bit further north at Jessie M. Honeyman. LOTS to keep the kids busy with hiking, the dunes and swiming boating on Cleawox Lake. Pedal boat, kayak and canoe rentals are offered from Memorial Day to Labor Day on Cleawox plus there is a store with all the basics needs. In addition, Honeyman has 8 buildings and 43 acres of Civilian Conservation Corps work listed on the National Register of Historic Places for your history component. Along with Silver Falls State Park, east of Salem, Honeyman is considered to be the best remaining example of CCC work remaining in Oregon!




    %26gt;%26gt; But I think I%26#39;d rather stay a big farther south each time...%26lt;%26lt;



    Newport and Reedsport are both NORTH of Bullard%26#39;s Beach. I don%26#39;t understand just where you want to stay?



    If you don%26#39;t want to be on the beach, then any campground would work for you. Reedsport is a center for the OHV crowd and campgrounds there have ATV%26#39;s driving through and next to them all day long. The only exception is that little one up the hill on the way to the lighthouse.



    Here%26#39;s the KOA in North Bend, oregone. Is that the one you mean? http://www.koa.com/where/or/37187/

    Easy to go from Shilo Inn Hôtel to Portland Downtown?

    Can you tell me if there is a bus stop close to the Shilo Inn H么tel to go to Portland Downtown? What is the distance between the 2 and how long does it take by bus or something else. I may be there but without a car.





    Thank you for your answers.



    Easy to go from Shilo Inn H%26ocirc;tel to Portland Downtown?


    Shilo Inn Beaverton is on Canyon Road, one of the main routes into downtown Portland. I know at least one bus line uses that route, so I%26#39;d expect there%26#39;s a bus stop within a couple minutes walk from the Shilo. The ride into Portland shouldn%26#39;t be more than 20 minutes, barring traffic tie-ups on 26.

    Which Highway to Take?

    We will be in Oregon for the first time in mid-August and staying a couple of days in Bend. We are planning to take a large, scenic loop drive from Bend (routes #20, to #??, to #126, to #19, to #58, to #46, and to #372) but we%26#39;re not sure whether to take route #242 or #20/#126 from Sisters to McKenzie Bridge. We will probably have time for only one of these routes. Which one would be the best as far as viewing the mountain scenery, etc.? Thank you.





    Which Highway to Take?


    It took me awhile to figure out the route numbers, but I think I have it now.



    My advice would be to take the Old McKenzie Hwy (#242) from Sisters to the McKenzie Hwy (#126). It%26#39;s supposed to be open all the way by August. This will take more time than going on #126 all the way because of its many twists, turns and vistas (and a stop at the Dee Wright Observatory, from which you can see every peak from Hood to Diamond on a clear day).



    You%26#39;ll then turn left (west) on #126 to the Aufderheide National Scenic Byway(I had to look up the number, which is #19). That will take you to Westfir and Oakridge along the #97, which would take you over Willamette Pass. Before you reach the #97 I am supposing you want to turn north (left) on Forest Road #46, which will lead you to onto the CAscade Lakes Scenic Byway. Most forest roads are concerns, but I am guessing that this one gets a lot of traffic and is well maintained...but others will have to chip in with their experiences.



    Before you reach the summit on Willamette Pass, you%26#39;ll want to take a little time to see Salt Creek Falls, the second highest waterfall in Oregon. What is really different about these falls is you start out at their top and have to go down the easy to follow trail to get the best look at the falls.



    Which Highway to Take?


    Add the short hike to Proxy Falls to your list of things to do along Old McKenzie Hwy (242). It%26#39;s not too far from the junction with 126.




    An article in today%26#39;s paper sounds like 242 could be closed. It might be best to check on tripcheck.com closer to the time of your trip.




    Forest Rd. #19 was fine when a took it a few years ago. If you are interested in an excellent hot springs experience, check out Cougar (short hike from the beginning of your #19 route).





    I also recommend Proxy Falls if you can get to it.





    A favorite day hike of mine off of #126 (near Sahalie Falls and Clear Lake) is the hike along the McKenzie River to Tamolich Pool. I%26#39;m not sure if this will be near where you will enter #126 as I%26#39;m not sure where #77 is.





    If you are interested in a slight detour back towards Eugene on #58, Waldo Lake is worth checking out (second deepest lake in Oregon). Very beautiful and peaceful when I was there.





    The Cascade Lakes drive (#46) is a must do - you will see the Three Sisters, Mount Bachelor and several amazing lakes along the way.




    Let%26#39;s not confuse things.





    ';Forest Rd. #19 was fine when a took it a few years ago. If you are interested in an excellent hot springs experience, check out Cougar (short hike from the beginning of your #19 route).';



    DON%26#39;T BE PUT OFF by the ';Forest Road'; designation. This is officially the West Cascades National Scenic Byway. Fully paved and easy driving (especially during fall colors season). Cougar Dam is certainly worth a look (it%26#39;s at the beginning of #19 as youleave #126). Cougar Hot Springs used to be a risky hippie hangout with lots of nudity and drugs, but has been cleaned up in recent years thanks to a fee being charged and better enforcement.





    ';A favorite day hike of mine off of #126 (near Sahalie Falls and Clear Lake) is the hike along the McKenzie River to Tamolich Pool. I%26#39;m not sure if this will be near where you will enter #126 as I%26#39;m not sure where #77 is.';



    IF THEY GO VIA #242 (Old McKenzie Hwy) they will NOT pass Sahalie Falls or Tamolich Pool. By the way, last year, the snow was so heavy that the ';invisible falls'; at Tamolich were real waterfall. And, it%26#39;s 97, the major north-south highway through Bend, not 77. And the newspaper article said #242 should be open by August. If not, your suggestions regarding Sahalie, Tamolich, etc. are good ones.




    Thanks for your ideas and suggestions on these routes. Also, thank you for the highway website. We will definitely check to see if the road is open before we go. Sounds like we will have great scenery whichever way we go.




    Official info on hwy 242, per the state of Oregon, is available at:



    oregon.gov/ODOT/鈥cKenzie_Pass_Project.shtml




    I could follow that route except #372. #46 is Cascade Lakse Scenic byway and goes right into Bend. when you drive that be sure to pull off to a couple of the lakes to see the views over them, just driving along road you miss some of the bestElk Lake and Lava Lake are two.





    Poppa is right if you take 242 through to 126 you will miss Sahahlaie Falls, and I always enjoy a stop at Clear lake near there, I suggest you consider driving from Sisters to McKenzie Pass then back to Sisters an 20/126. The part on 242 from McK Pass to 126 is nice but less scenic than 20/126. plus it is narrow and crooked.




    The gate to the north end of the Cascade Lakes Highway was opened yesterday (just in time for the Memorial Day crowds...) - deschutes.org/go/鈥ndex.cfm

    Lemolo Falls

    We are interested in doing the Lemolo Falls hike.

    My Moon guidebook describes it as ';a gentle one-mile path that drops down into the North Umpqua Canyon and passes several small waterfalls on the way to Lemolo Falls.';

    Directions given for this hike: Take Lemolo Rd off of Route 138, then follow Forest Service Roads 2610 and 2610-100 and look for the trailhead sign.

    Did some research online and found descriptions of two different trail to falls. One is listed at .25 in length and goes to the base of the falls for the best view. It is described as very steep and difficult. The other option is described as having a limited topside view of the falls. This one follows the North Umpqua Trail and is 1.5 miles in length.

    Has anyone done either of these hikes to Lemolo Falls? Is there a third, less well-known hike to Lemolo Falls that my Moon guidebook is describing? Any information would be appreciated.

    Thanks for any help.

    Lemolo Falls

    This is your second request for info on trails to waterfalls...in widely separated parts of the state. I%26#39;m not familiar with Lemolo Falls, so can%26#39;t tell you much more than you already know. However, there are hundreds of great waterfall hikes between the two you have asked about and I can give you good info and recommendation on many of them. Please tell us what your itinerary is, how much time you want to spend on your trips (and your hikes) and what you are looking for in the way of waterfalls.

    Also, please tell us WHEN you are planning to visit. Some falls are inaccessible in winter (thru June) and some diminish significantly by late summer.

    Lemolo Falls

    Thanks for your reply, oregonpoppa.

    We will be visiting the first week of June. We will be in Oregon for 10 nights. We are looping around from the Columbia Gorge to Crater Lake and up along the Oregon Coast to Waldport where we%26#39;ll hop on I-5 for our return flight. I realize it is a lot to see in a short time but I think we are up for it.

    The reason I am only asking about these two hike are these are the only two I need information on. I have two guidebooks that I have been able to research my trip with: Frommers which has been accurate but lacks the detail of Moon, and Moon which has excellent detail but is riddled with errors. On the more well-known hikes I can cross-reference with the two books. And what I have found online backs up the trail descriptions given in Moon on the majority of hikes we are doing. However, I found conflicting info about Lemolo and Ramona Falls in Moon and what I found online. Some of the info online was gleaned from a U.S. Forest Service website so I would assume they know what they are talking about! But, giving Moon the benefit of the doubt, there might be more than one trail to a falls, etc. That is why I didn%26#39;t automatically assume my Moon guidebook published misinformation and wanted to inquire online.

    I try to be respectful of the people who generously donate their time to answer posts and not waste your time with stuff I can research myself. I don%26#39;t want to be one of those people who write: I%26#39;m thinking about visiting Oregon what is there to see there? Ha ha.


    blm.gov/or/鈥emolo_falls.html

    I am guessing this is the website you found showing the hike to be a difficult one.

    http://www.oregonhiking.com/

    If you can, try to get hold of the hiking guide books of William L. Sullivan. These are used by most of the hiking organizations in Oregon as trusted and reliable references (especially when combined with good topo maps). He breaks the various areas of the state into separate books, each titled ';100 Hikes in...'; He hikes all the trails personally and updates each book every couple of years. Bill is a fellow Obsidian.


    Yep, that%26#39;s the one. I also found another website where it was described as difficult and steep.

    Thanks for the hiking trail guide recommendation. I%26#39;ll check those out.

    Thank you!


    Just a word here about any Forest Service roads you may be thinking of taking. I would reccommend that you stop into the local FS office and get a FS map of the district you will be in. Some of the roads are not well marked and some may be closed, it depends where you are in Oregon.

    There is no cell phone service in many rural or mountainous areas.

    The north entrance/exit to Crater Lake may not be open by the time you arrive. Do you have the phone number to call to check?

    Do you have Golden and Silver Falls near Coos Bay on your list? (This is different from Silver Falls near Salem.)


    Hi, half-Brit.

    That is very good information. Thanks.

    I do have the number of the Steel Information Center to call: 541-594-3000 (in case anyone reading this needs it) to check out road conditions at the north entrance. Right now I%26#39;m just assuming it will be closed and am basing my planning on that assumption.

    No, I wasn%26#39;t planning on visiting Gold and Silver Falls. I noticed it on my map but it wasn%26#39;t mentioned in Moon or Frommers so I figured it must be a minor falls, or something. But I will now Google it. Thanks!

    By the way, did you used to post on the A%26amp;E message boards? It seems I recall someone with the avatar ';Half-Brit'; posting there. But that was ages ago, so sorry if my memory is failing me!


    Nope, this forum is my only (online!) vice, LOL.

    Golden and Silver Falls is worth the trip in. They are both good sized. Silver is reachable by walking up an old, old road and there is an information sign there showing where the bridge used to be. To get to Golden you follow a footpath. Both are easy short walks.

    If you want to get to the top of Golden, there is a trail that leads up. At the top, if you were to keep going north, you%26#39;d reach the end of the original road that came down the gulch - the one that crossed Silver.


    Thanks, half-Brit.

    I visited some websites and the falls look very nice. I was suprised to see one of the falls is quite large- I think I read it has a 100ft drop. That is a major waterfall!


    I know you said you only needed info on a couple of falls, since you had it on the others you%26#39;ll be visiting...but, I can%26#39;t resist putting in plugs for a few favorites that may already be on our route:

    Sahalie Falls on #126 just before the hwy merges with #20. In June this will probably be the most powerful cascade you%26#39;ll find in the state. Just an amazing spectacle...and just a few steps off the highway and the parking area.

    Salt Creek Falls, near the top of Willamette Pass on #97, second only to Multnomah Falls in height and you meet it as a small stream on the top of the falls.

    More toward the coast...

    Sweet Creek Falls, just off the #126 at Mapleton.One of the most beautiful settings. Small falls, but continuing cascading stream (special platforms and walkways have been constructed to allow you to follow the stream right up to the falls.) Often combined in hiking with Beaver Falls, just a bit upstream.

    Kentucky Falls, a little harder to get to, but also off of #126. It%26#39;s four miles down and four miles back up, but they%26#39;re not difficult miles and you get to enjoy three waterfalls...the last two from two different rivers as they plunge into a common pool and stream. This is where we usually have our lunch and enjoy the magical atmosphere at the bottom of twin waterfalls.

    All waterfalls are wonderful and I%26#39;m sure you%26#39;ll enjoy your trip.


    Thanks, oregonpoppa.

    Yes, we definitely plan on visiting Sahalie (and Koosah) Falls and Salt Creek Falls -with a little detour to see Waldo Lake, which my guidebook describes as one of the clearest in the world- wow!

    I hadn%26#39;t planned on Sweet Creek Falls and Kentucky Falls- had not heard of them. I will have to check those out online. Thanks!

    Yes, I agree with you that all waterfalls are wonderful. Florida is so flat that we don%26#39;t have any waterfalls - well there is a pitiful little stream of water that drops into a sinkhole in northwest Florida that is called a fall. Lol. So I am a waterfall fanatic. Love them!

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  • Departures Resturant PDX

    I went to Departures last night for the first time - pretty neat place. My daughter treated me for a belated Mother%26#39;s Day. I just realized today that the entry was supposed to resemble heading down the jetway onto a flight( or the waiting area at Space Mountain Disneyland or is that just my interpretation?? I want to go back and sit out on one of the roof terraces in the summer but probably hard to get a spot out there. I was surprised how packed the place was for a Tue night.



    Departures Resturant PDX


    It is packed on most nights, from what I have seen.





    It is to be a venture on to a flight.





    Locals LOVE the eateries at The Nines. The bar at Urban Farmer and Departure are always busy. The dinner tables, at Urban Farmer, are as well.





    I am actually surprised that more locals, on this board, have not checked it out.



    Departures Resturant PDX


    Laughing at myself here, KG.... From the thread%26#39;s title, I thought Departures was at the airport. So PDXWineauxs%26#39; reference to The Nines and Urban Farmer made no sense at all to me. Had to Google to set myself straight. ;-) And now that I have, thanks for the recommendation!





    So, you liked the space; how was the food?




    Sorry about that! I am local and it was my first time at the resturant - but I think it has only been opened a couple of months. The food was great - small plates and you can share. Not cheap but I was entertained by the ambiance and the crowd so that is worth something to me. 3 dishes and drinks came to $80. The guy next to me had a small steak that was sizzling on a round rock. I had been in LA the weekend before and I had to say when I walked into this place I thought I had just gone back. The outdoor terraces will be amazing in the summer time.




    That is 80$ for 2.




    mistletoe, I am surprised that you had not heard of Departure yet. Your comment was great though...I can see how you would wonder what KG was talking about.




    Sorry again about that - I spend so much time in airports that Portland is PDX to me. What I should have said was Departures Resturant on top of Macy%26#39;s building downtown Portland.




    Sounds like a cool place, thanks for the info. We%26#39;ll have to try this place when we%26#39;re in Portland again. :)




    No need to apologize KG. I actually LOL%26#39;d. And I knew there was a restaurant at the top of The Nines, PDXWineauxs, just couldn%26#39;t remember the name. So, when I read ';Departures'; and ';PDX';.... Have to give it a try.




    mistletoe: Don%26#39;t feel bad at all. When I read the titel for the thread, I thought the same thing. I had never heard of that restaurant over by the airport. Must be something new in Cascade Station, lol!!!

    Traffic Memeorial Day weekend between Portland & Seattle

    Just wanting to know what the traffic is like leaving Portland %26amp; going to Seattle for the day this Memorial Day weekend. What day is best %26amp; how bad is the drive? Thanks for the info---



    Traffic Memeorial Day weekend between Portland %26amp; Seattle


    I have the same plan and wondered the same thing, oregonfamily. Unless someone can convince me otherwise, we%26#39;ll go on Sunday, first because the M%26#39;s have an afternoon game that day, and second because it%26#39;s the middle of the holiday weekend, so I%26#39;m thinking there%26#39;ll be fewer people traveling to/returning from wherever. My other consideration was the weather, but the forecast is for sun all weekend.





    Have fun!



    Traffic Memeorial Day weekend between Portland %26amp; Seattle


    I would think either Sat or Sunday morning would be ok - maybe leave by 7 or 8 am before everyone with their boats and every outdoor toy is on the road.




    Definitely go Saturday or Sunday. We have made this drive more times than I can count on pretty much all holidays. I will say that all the roads in and around the Seattle area will have heavy traffic throughout the weekend, including before and after. This was one of the weekends when we lived up there that we really paid attention to what time we headed out.





    mistletoe--Catching an M%26#39;s game? Fun! And perfect weather for it!




    Keep in mind that Folklife Festival is this weekend, paired with baseball games, etc. all the freeways up there are going to be a mess! Especially if you are trying to head anywhere north of downtown.





    I would probably opt for Sunday as well, just because it is smack dab in the middle of the weekend. Get an early start, like, really early, because I am sure everyone else will have the same idea. Honestly, depending on what you are planning to do/go up there, I would try to get out of town by 7 so you can miss the worst of the traffic on the back end.




    Thanks so much for taking your time %26amp; for the help!

    Oregon City

    Hi, For anybody that is interested, I had an email today with information that the museums in Oregon City have now reopened.



    mthoodterritory.com/email/200906/index.htm鈥?/a>



    Looks like I will have to squeeze it into my trip after all.



    Oregon City


    Excellent news!!! I am going to try to get the kiddos there, just in case they lose their funding.





    Thanks for the update!



    Oregon City


    Glad you will be visiting O City. Enjoy your visit!

    Celebrations by the Sea

    Anyone ever use these folks as wedding planners for Cannon Beach Area? My daughter would like to get married on the beach in that area in August. We%26#39;re looking for some help. Thanks for any advice.



    Celebrations by the Sea


    I%26#39;ve seen several weddings on the beach in front of SurfSand Resort. You might give them a call.



    Celebrations by the Sea


    I have never heard of them -



    There is two churches, Cannon Beach Presbyterian and the Community Church that is Baptist. I have seen weddings on the beach here, as well as one at the Haystack Gardens. Both were neat.




    Know nothing about them. But I have a copy of the ';Cannon Beach Magazine'; from 2007, and here are the advertisements related to weddings. Maybe you could contact them and see which companies they recommend?



    www.franklynchphoto.com



    www.stillimages.com



    www.cannonbeachflorist.com



    Depending upon the size of the wedding, and whether or not you plan on having canopies, etc. you may need a permit. (Sigh, of course . . . ) Contact the Chamber of Commerce and/or CB Police Dept for more info.



    And a license is required and must be purchased three days ahead of time.



    Again, just info from a magazine ;-)




    Thanks everyone! I will check into the other options you gave me.





    I think it will be a spectacular back drop for pictures! She%26#39;d like to tie the knot near Haystack Rock. It will be a small, simple ceremony.





    We have until August to get things done, so you might see me asking more questions here as we plan along.




    ';I think it will be a spectacular back drop for pictures! She%26#39;d like to tie the knot near Haystack Rock. It will be a small, simple ceremony.';





    LOL; small, simple, in August, at Haystack? OK, it will be a great wedding spot, if you can hold the crowds at bay. Let%26#39;s all go and give the bride away, your dearest, closest, TA family.




    If it was me I would do a morning one, so less people. Especially at the beach. If you can do it before 10am that would be best for small, and might get some great shots. Earlier the better really for photos with the rock itself without people in the photos that you don%26#39;t know :)




    I have a friend that went through the Surfsand resort. It was a beautiful wedding. I don%26#39;t know much about the details, but she said the resort took care of everything. It might be worth checking out.




    Tadsfam1:



    not sure if it%26#39;s too late, but if you%26#39;re still looking for information:



    We got married on the beach in Cannon Beach two years ago, and did it without a planner. So I have LOADS of suggestions for you.



    Among them: Seaside has/had a wedding show featuring all the options back in February, so it%26#39;s too late if she%26#39;s looking to get married this year but not if next year.





    My suggestions: Costco in Gearhart for table flowers, Basketcase for ';wearable'; flowers. The minister at the Presbyterian church is really awesome; we loved him (and we%26#39;re not very religious). Baked Alaska did our catering, very good value and excellent food (plus they provided plates, linens, cake cutting service, etc.). We provided our own alchohol, booked a bartender thru our caterer. DJs were the hardest to come by - there are only a few in the area, so we had to rely on a friend of the family to do this. Excellent photographer: Don Frank. Cakes: Bel Lisamo cakes (try the chocolate with butter brickle). For parties under 100 (we had 140, and it was pushing it), I%26#39;d totally recommend the Cannon Beach Chamber Hall - super cheap, and really nice!





    Let me know if there are any pieces you%26#39;re still working on; since I did it all myself, I did a TON of research.



    :-)




    Oh, and note about getting married at Haystack Rock:





    You%26#39;ll have to be at a certain distance from the rock, and from major beach access points (esp. during the summer). You%26#39;ll need to get a permit from the Parks department, and get permission for your specific access point. Here is a link to much of this information:



    http://cannonbeach.org/hall-rental.htm




    Without a doubt they are the number one experts of weddings on the North Coast and highly recommended by both the Seaside and Cannon Beach Chambers of Commerce. Not really a %26#39;wedding planner%26#39; so much as a %26#39;wedding facilitator%26#39; Photography and the Officiants are also part of what they offer. Will definately save you time and money, they do most of the weddings in this area.

    Sorrry

    Trooper3644 is Gordon McDonald of Cobram Victoria Australia -- what with pass words , user names and personal names -- I am beginning to wonder who is really me -- maybe I%26#39;m Joe Bloggs .

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    Sesame opened across from Lithia Park. Owned by the same couple who has Pasta Piatti.





    T%26#39;s is now Tease, serving global cuisine in small-plate form.





    Beasy%26#39;s Last Stand took up where Pilaf%26#39;s used to be, at the rear of the plaza along Guanajuato Way.



    New Openings


    Thanks for the update, what kid of food is Seasame? Also, do you know if New Sammy%26#39;s in nearby Talent is open for lunch yet? :)



    New Openings


    Sesame is Pan-Asian. They had a rough start, but I think they are getting it together. It would be worth trying.





    New Sammy%26#39;s Cowboy Bistro has been open for lunch for about a year now.




    Thanks, I loved our lunch at New Sammy%26#39;s last summer, nice to hear they are still doing that again this year. :)


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  • Corvallis restaurant recommendation?

    My husband and I will be through Corvallis June 10 and taking an old family friend out to dinner. Would like recommendation on really good spot --- quality more important than price. Prefer American (grills, etc) or Italian style food. I%26#39;ve read through the TA restaurant rating posts and many seem to be done with price as the key determiner of rating or done by college students (whose tastes tend to be different than those of us ';mid-lifers';!)





    Thanks for any help.

    Washington/Oregon early June

    I%26#39;m posting this to both the Washington and Oregon forums, since I%26#39;ve seen others do the same. I need advice and recommendations.





    We%26#39;re arriving at SEATAC at midday on June 8 (with a departure of June 18, midday). Originally, I think we%26#39;ll try to get to Port Townsend upon arrival and rental car pickup (after over 8 hours of flying). Another possibility is to head for Anacortes, spend the night, do a whale watching tour (Island Adventures keeps being mentioned), then leave Anacortes for Port Townsend. If that%26#39;s a good plan, what%26#39;s the best route from Anacortes to Port Townsend? How long does that take? Or, better to do this part at the end of our loop, which I%26#39;m posting below, and go from SEATAC to Port Townsend upon arrival. I keep hearing the ferries are jammed, so better to drive around the sound? Also, I read somewhere that at least one ferry is canceled because of tides, but I%26#39;m not sure if it%26#39;s one to/from Port Townsend.





    Anyway, our goals besides whale watching for orcas are:





    Native art, perhaps in Port Townsend? Northwestern art galleries, also here? One night in Port Townsend.





    Olympic National Park (1 night at Port Angeles- lodging recommendations appreciated- and 1 night at Lake Quinault Lodge). We do want to explore and like short, moderate hikes, no more than 5-7 miles round trip. Perhaps a visit to the Makah Reservation. From Lake Quinault, is it best to head for I5, or go along the coast to the Oregon border?





    Some select places along the Oregon Coast. A couple of lighthouses look interesting. The whole coast, so different from our Florida Gulf coast, seems fascinating. Is the Sea Lion Cave overly commercialized? We prefer quieter areas and small towns, but with places of interest. Recommendation on what to see in 2 days max would be appreciated.





    Northern CA%26#39;s Redwood National Park (given our lack of time, would it be better to drive the entire Oregon coast to Crescent City, or pick a few places, then head for I5 to go south?





    Oregon%26#39;s Crater Lake





    Columbia River Gorge





    Mt. Ranier (if we can squeeze it in)





    Back to Seattle, and, if we don%26#39;t do the whale watching when we arrive, go to Ancortes before we fly out on June 18 at noon from SEATAC.





    BTW, the Washington and Oregon tourism departments have kindly inundated us with information. Maybe too much %26lt;g%26gt;





    Thanks



    Washington/Oregon early June


    You are really trying to squeeze a lot into 10 days, but since I live in Washington next to the Oregon border, here are my thoughts.





    1. Skip the whale watching trip, it takes at least half a day and chances of seeing whales up close can be %26#39;iffy%26#39;. Just tour Olympic National Park and save the San Juan Islands for another trip.





    2. Native art--consider driving out from Port Angeles to Neah Bay to the Makah Museum. An outstanding display of Native American culture.





    3. Oregon Coast - there really aren%26#39;t any places that are over-commercialized IMO. Skip the Sea Lion Caves, you can see more sea lions on the docks in Astoria or Newport for free.





    4. Recommended lighthouses--Yaquina Head, Yaquina Bay, Heceta Head.





    5. Since you are only allowing 2 days along the OR coast, I would not try to go as far south as the CA redwoods.





    6. Crater Lake - still likely to be some snow there, check their website.





    7. Columbia River Gorge--definitely! Easy day trip from Portland to Hood River and return.





    8. Mt. Rainier ??? - Do Mt. St. Helens instead, this really is a %26#39;must see%26#39; if you have not been there before.



    Washington/Oregon early June


    %26lt;%26lt;3. Oregon Coast - there really aren%26#39;t any places that are over-commercialized IMO. Skip the Sea Lion Caves, you can see more sea lions on the docks in Astoria or Newport for free.%26gt;%26gt;





    And with less ';stank';.




    You might want to keep in mind the fact that driving the Oregon coast is very time consuming. It is a very demanding driving experience with lots of twists and turns that will really tire you out. You will be lucky to make forty miles an hour during the summer months on Pac Hwy 101 because it is only two lanes almost eighty per cent of the way from Astoria to Brookings.





    Nonetheless, the drive on Hwy 101 is an experience everyone should have once in their life. I used to live in Englewood and Venice, but grew up here. Nothing compares to it. The other posts are correct in saying you can see sea lions and whales all along the way. There is a family of whales off the coast near Yachats year round, we just saw them this past weekend. Also, there are literally thousands of tide pools and vistas as well, take your pick. The point is you won%26#39;t be disappointed no matter where you wind up on the coast.





    For your dates and time, I would drive south to



    Cannon Beach and Tolavana. Then go further south to Tillamook, turn toward the ocean and drive the loop from Cape Meares through Oceanside to Cape Lookout State Park and back to 101. These places are a great snapshot of Oregon coast and short enough to give you time to take it all in.





    Ft Clatsop in Warrenton is an educational bonanza on Lewis and Clark, and the promenade at Seaside is summertime favorite. They each have their own attributes, but are good stop overs along the way.





    As far as Crater Lake goes, you would be better off planning a trip south to Crater Lake using I5 and turning west in Roseburg on Hwy 138 to the South Rim, but it will probably still be snowed in during early June. Make sure you check with ODOT about road conditions before you attempt the drive, http://www.oregon.gov/ODOT/ Ditto for Mt Hood, it can sometimes get a late spring snow shower.





    Finally, don%26#39;t forget the mountains and coast are still very chilly in June. They can be downright cold after sundown.





    Hope all this helps with your planning




    Agree with Kitters- thats alot to see in 10 days- you;l be driving mostly- but doable- youll sleep on the plane home!! :)





    An alternative to Redwoods NP--I%26#39;d drive down the Oregon Coast, but head inland at Crecent City and visit Jeddidiah Smith State Park(lots of redwoods here) on your way back to Oregon on Hwy 199- instead of going all the way to the Redwoods National Park.





    Crater Lake will most likely still have snow on the ground-so youll have to use the the Southern Entrance.





    If you get a sunny day, I%26#39;d opt for Mt St Helens(I like to see steamy volcanoes!) over Mt Rainer, but if the weathers crummy you wont be able to see either.





    From Lake Quinault, I%26#39;d probably head over to I-5 and then possibly drive down to Salem, OR and then head west on Hwy 20 to the coast. You%26#39;ll miss out on some of the ORegon Coast, but since you dont have alot of time, and there is much to see, this might be an option.





    Not to miss areas are Newport, Cape Perpetua, Oregon Dunes, Bandon and South Coast in general(Port Orford to Brookings is my favorite by far).










    I don%26#39;t yet have a clear picture of how much time you want to spend in WA?



    To give you an idea of distances, the Oregon coast is about 365 miles long via Hwy 101. Yes, you can drive it in two full days, but you won%26#39;t have much time to stop and see/do anything. I would not bother with Three Capes loop since you%26#39;ll see a lot of nice scenery south, and there aren%26#39;t a huge amount of ocean views on that loop.



    There are some redwoods that you can see if you take Hwy 199 from Crescent City, but to really see them you do need to go a bit south, not a lot, but add a couple of hours in here too.



    Then you%26#39;re heading for Crater Lake (on Hwy 199), which is a half day drive from Crescent City. From there it%26#39;s about two hours to Bend, not counting time at the lake. Note, the north road *should* be open by then, but there is no guarantee!



    It%26#39;s about 3 hours from Bend to the gorge, another 2 or so back into Portland. Hope this gives you a feeling for the time/distances. Nine days may not be enough to do what you want :-(




    We used to live in WA. I would skip Anacortes and head over to Port Townsend. It is a wonderful little town. Definitely make time for Fort Wordon State Park. Check out Officer%26#39;s Row, the lighthouse, and wander around the old bunkers up on the hill and the views from up there are really good!





    If you are interested in staying a night in PT, we have stayed at the Morgan Hill Guest Cottage several times and really enjoy it. They have several properties and the owner is very easy to work with.





    In Port Angeles, we have had good stays at the Olympic Lodge. Very reasonable rates, nice hotel, the rooms on the backside face the golf course so it is very quiet.





    If the north entrance to Crater Lake is still closed, obviously it will take much longer to get back up here to the Portland area.





    If it is open, from Crater Lake to Bend takes about 90 minutes, and Bend to Hood River in the gorge is about 3 hours. Hood River to Portland is only an hour, but with stops to see the sights, it can be as long as you want.




    Hi, I know the Seaside area very well, the Rivertide Suites would be a nice place to stay here, there are also several places right on the Prom that would be nice if you want oceanfront. Hi-Tide, Ebb-Tide, Shilo Oceanfront, Inn of the Four Winds are all nice choices for lodging. We also like the Tides by the Sea down by Ave U. www.seasideor.com





    I hope you have a wonderful time exploring the Oregon Coast! :)




    Not sure the OP has mentioned staying in Seaside?



    At this point, travlibrarian, I have a feeling you%26#39;ll need to take a look at your itinerary and decide if you want a quick ';drive-thru'; of the sights, or perhaps cut out some miles and have more time to enjoy each area.




    We have a very similar trip planned. We are also traveling from Florida and staying for 10 nights at the beginning of June. We are flying from MIA to Portland.





    We visited the Olympic Penninsula June 2007. Flew into Seatac. We stayed at the Red Lion in Port Angeles and had a good experience. Very nicely maintained motel.





    Really enjoyed visiting the Hoh Rainforest- it was incredibly lush and otherworldly. As a native Floridian, I was enchanted by a landscape that was so completely different from my own. We didn%26#39;t go as farth south as the Quinault area. Heard from a couple of different sources that the rainforest in the Quinault area was even lusher than in the Hoh area further north. Wish I had had time to see it.





    We are spending a full day in the Columbia Gorge- starting in Portland and then spending the night in Hood River. Then one full day in the Northern Willamette wine country. We are doing a few scenic drives with stops for short hikes -traveling south through the Willamette National Forest corridor. We are traveling east but stopping just short of the Bend/Deschutes National Forest area. Maybe I%26#39;m completely wrong, but from what I gathered the forest here is drier. We have enough dryness Florida. We want to see something incredibly lush so we opted to skip this area of Oregon. It might be a mistake because travel guidebooks seem to love the Deschutes area. If we had more time we%26#39;d venture over but choices have to be made... We are also visiting Crater Lake. We are driving south on I-5 to Roseburg where we%26#39;ll take hwy 138 east (the Umpqua Hwy). That road is supposed to be very scenic. We%26#39;ll then take hwy 230 south and circle around to Crater Lake%26#39;s southern entrance. From there we are heading south on hwy 199 and going through Jedediah Smith- this is where we%26#39;ll see our redwoods. I didn%26#39;t feel the need to go further south- people say really nice things about Jedediah%26#39;s redwood forest. Then from here we swing north and are hugging the coast until we reach Newport where we travel inland to I-5. We are spending one night in Bandon and one in Florence as we head north. There will be lots of places to pull over and stops to get out and explore so I know the drive will be very slow-going.





    This will be my first visit to Oregon so I don%26#39;t speak from experience, but planning this trip, I know that it will be at a very fast pace. And we aren%26#39;t flying in from Seattle and spending time in WA. I agree with the others that you might want to trim some stuff off. I empathize though, because it is hard, when you are traveling from so far away, not to want to squeeze a lot of stuff in because you don%26#39;t know when you will be able to return.




    %26#39;As far as Crater Lake goes, you would be better off planning a trip south to Crater Lake using I5 and turning west in Roseburg on Hwy 138 to the South Rim, but it will probably still be snowed in during early June. Make sure you check with ODOT about road conditions before you attempt the drive, http://www.oregon.gov/ODOT/ Ditto for Mt Hood, it can sometimes get a late spring snow shower. %26#39;





    Sundaddy, I have searched this site to get the info for Crater Lake Rim Drive, but I can not see it. Can you point me into the right part of the site please? We are going to Crater Lake in june and I am most interested in keeping up with the road and weather conditions.





    Thanks